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I wrote comment under one post of the WP Facebook page and got banned, just because it was critical of Gutenberg\u2019s developement. Sorry, that is not the way to handle critic by a long term WordPress user. My personal account is blocked to the day, since nearly two months now.", "content_text": "Hm, I can\u2019t recommend WordPress to my customers in good faith anymore. I wrote comment under one post of the WP Facebook page and got banned, just because it was critical of Gutenberg\u2019s developement. Sorry, that is not the way to handle critic by a long term WordPress user. My personal account is blocked to the day, since nearly two months now.", "date_published": "2023-10-02T10:30:34-04:00", "authors": [ { "name": "Johnny", "url": "", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fd1eb69f37260810a0a5f5431c9b4261?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } ], "author": { "name": "Johnny", "url": "", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fd1eb69f37260810a0a5f5431c9b4261?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } }, { "id": "https://wptavern.com/wordpress-opens-2023-annual-survey#comment-444334", "url": "https://wptavern.com/wordpress-opens-2023-annual-survey#comment-444334", "content_html": "In reply to Elsie G.\n\nI find it almost funny that the idea of creating FSE was to make site editing easier and then we are faced with the reality that any client editing the site with FSE is unthinkable. From the smallest one person business (who would be hopelessly overwhelmed by it) to the largest clients I deal with (around 100 employees). None of them can understand or use FSE. None of them want to! Both client types want a site they can put content into and it conforms to the design constraints I\u2019ve provided.\n\nAnd for my part? I\u2019ve tried making the sort of flexible dynamic solutions I used to be able to make with PHP and wordpress, and the static templates and theme.json nested hell just makes it fifteen times more complicated for half the impact.\n\nEvery 6 months or so I have another try with FSE. I do the whole \u201cbuild my custom blocks\u201d build steps. I try to wrangle theme.json to present the correct options. I run into roadblocks and roadblocks. Issues which have sat unfixed for 3 years. And I find that I\u2019ve spent 5 days getting a half working shell together.\n\nIt\u2019s just not been a good 5 years for WordPress. I no longer recommend it to clients. It\u2019s too complex to support.", "content_text": "In reply to Elsie G.\n\nI find it almost funny that the idea of creating FSE was to make site editing easier and then we are faced with the reality that any client editing the site with FSE is unthinkable. From the smallest one person business (who would be hopelessly overwhelmed by it) to the largest clients I deal with (around 100 employees). None of them can understand or use FSE. None of them want to! Both client types want a site they can put content into and it conforms to the design constraints I\u2019ve provided.\n\nAnd for my part? I\u2019ve tried making the sort of flexible dynamic solutions I used to be able to make with PHP and wordpress, and the static templates and theme.json nested hell just makes it fifteen times more complicated for half the impact.\n\nEvery 6 months or so I have another try with FSE. I do the whole \u201cbuild my custom blocks\u201d build steps. I try to wrangle theme.json to present the correct options. I run into roadblocks and roadblocks. Issues which have sat unfixed for 3 years. And I find that I\u2019ve spent 5 days getting a half working shell together.\n\nIt\u2019s just not been a good 5 years for WordPress. I no longer recommend it to clients. It\u2019s too complex to support.", "date_published": "2023-10-01T23:13:04-04:00", "authors": [ { "name": "Steve", "url": "", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/a2845617144f71f437deb6c01de73390?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } ], "author": { "name": "Steve", "url": "", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/a2845617144f71f437deb6c01de73390?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } }, { "id": "https://wptavern.com/wordpress-opens-2023-annual-survey#comment-444333", "url": "https://wptavern.com/wordpress-opens-2023-annual-survey#comment-444333", "content_html": "In reply to Oleg.\n\nCompletely agree.\n\nGutenberg is not bad per se and in many ways is big improvement. But as you say it\u2019s hard to develop for. I\u2019d also add it incorporates features which are not just unneccessary but also harmful to running a cms.\n\nThe biggest problem is, however, is that it\u2019s the main priority atm which means more important things are shelved", "content_text": "In reply to Oleg.\n\nCompletely agree.\n\nGutenberg is not bad per se and in many ways is big improvement. But as you say it\u2019s hard to develop for. I\u2019d also add it incorporates features which are not just unneccessary but also harmful to running a cms.\n\nThe biggest problem is, however, is that it\u2019s the main priority atm which means more important things are shelved", "date_published": "2023-10-01T21:55:03-04:00", "authors": [ { "name": "Peter Shaw", "url": "https://shawfactor.com", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/964140058eef83f4d7c2ceb0ac6d2581?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } ], "author": { "name": "Peter Shaw", "url": "https://shawfactor.com", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/964140058eef83f4d7c2ceb0ac6d2581?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } }, { "id": "https://wptavern.com/wordpress-opens-2023-annual-survey#comment-444313", "url": "https://wptavern.com/wordpress-opens-2023-annual-survey#comment-444313", "content_html": "In reply to Oleg.\n\nI strongly agree with this: \u201cAlso block sites are less customizable by average Joe, PHP templates were easy to understand and modify even by someone with no coding skills while modern JS driven pages are much more complicated.\u201d It\u2019s a HUGE issue.", "content_text": "In reply to Oleg.\n\nI strongly agree with this: \u201cAlso block sites are less customizable by average Joe, PHP templates were easy to understand and modify even by someone with no coding skills while modern JS driven pages are much more complicated.\u201d It\u2019s a HUGE issue.", "date_published": "2023-10-01T06:52:50-04:00", "authors": [ { "name": "Elsie G", "url": "", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/cb4ee682c718556daa71560dcaa07e48?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } ], "author": { "name": "Elsie G", "url": "", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/cb4ee682c718556daa71560dcaa07e48?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } }, { "id": "https://wptavern.com/wordpress-opens-2023-annual-survey#comment-444308", "url": "https://wptavern.com/wordpress-opens-2023-annual-survey#comment-444308", "content_html": "The survey highlighted issues with WordPress.\n\nScale-based questions in market research often fail due to question framing, previous questions, or interviewer influence, missing the real problems.\n\nI wanted to voice dissatisfaction with core development priorities, such as unwanted Gutenberg features and neglected APIs and bugs.\n\nUnfortunately, the survey didn\u2019t provide a platform for this, and I believe others share this sentiment.", "content_text": "The survey highlighted issues with WordPress.\n\nScale-based questions in market research often fail due to question framing, previous questions, or interviewer influence, missing the real problems.\n\nI wanted to voice dissatisfaction with core development priorities, such as unwanted Gutenberg features and neglected APIs and bugs.\n\nUnfortunately, the survey didn\u2019t provide a platform for this, and I believe others share this sentiment.", "date_published": "2023-09-30T22:25:11-04:00", "authors": [ { "name": "scorpionne82", "url": "https://roqya-expert.com/", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7530bdf45fff78ee69f75717151f61b0?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } ], "author": { "name": "scorpionne82", "url": "https://roqya-expert.com/", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7530bdf45fff78ee69f75717151f61b0?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } }, { "id": "https://wptavern.com/wordpress-opens-2023-annual-survey#comment-444286", "url": "https://wptavern.com/wordpress-opens-2023-annual-survey#comment-444286", "content_html": "In reply to Peter Shaw.\n\nStrongly agree. There are numerous 10 years old tickets but all the attention is given to Gutenberg which was not required by general public but Automattic waned it.\nAlso block sites are less customizable by average Joe, PHP templates were easy to understand and modify even by someone with no coding skills while modern JS driven pages are much more complicated.", "content_text": "In reply to Peter Shaw.\n\nStrongly agree. There are numerous 10 years old tickets but all the attention is given to Gutenberg which was not required by general public but Automattic waned it.\nAlso block sites are less customizable by average Joe, PHP templates were easy to understand and modify even by someone with no coding skills while modern JS driven pages are much more complicated.", "date_published": "2023-09-30T06:51:11-04:00", "authors": [ { "name": "Oleg", "url": "", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/ed727834cd4cd1e036405e654de3f19c?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } ], "author": { "name": "Oleg", "url": "", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/ed727834cd4cd1e036405e654de3f19c?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } }, { "id": "https://wptavern.com/wordpress-opens-2023-annual-survey#comment-444244", "url": "https://wptavern.com/wordpress-opens-2023-annual-survey#comment-444244", "content_html": "I wish this survey had delved into the question of how many people use Classic Editor vs Gutenberg and why they don’t use Gutenberg. I feel like there’s a lot at stake by pushing forward with a sunsetting of Classic Editor (and Classic Widgets) without getting robust feedback about who uses it and why.\nWhat were the questions that were supposed to be answered by this survey? Because I definitely did not feel I was fully able to express myself and my needs in it.", "content_text": "I wish this survey had delved into the question of how many people use Classic Editor vs Gutenberg and why they don’t use Gutenberg. I feel like there’s a lot at stake by pushing forward with a sunsetting of Classic Editor (and Classic Widgets) without getting robust feedback about who uses it and why.\nWhat were the questions that were supposed to be answered by this survey? Because I definitely did not feel I was fully able to express myself and my needs in it.", "date_published": "2023-09-29T08:34:26-04:00", "authors": [ { "name": "Elsie G", "url": "", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/cb4ee682c718556daa71560dcaa07e48?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } ], "author": { "name": "Elsie G", "url": "", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/cb4ee682c718556daa71560dcaa07e48?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } }, { "id": "https://wptavern.com/wordpress-opens-2023-annual-survey#comment-444217", "url": "https://wptavern.com/wordpress-opens-2023-annual-survey#comment-444217", "content_html": "Why doesn\u2019t anyone seem to care that WordPress media handling is absolutely terrible? There is no clean way to tell if media is being used and where, or a simple way to substitute media, or reassign content from duplicate media. I have sites with multiple editors that will just reload media every post rather than look to see it is existing, ballooning their sites with junk. I have discussed this with a handful of colleagues with the same frustration.", "content_text": "Why doesn\u2019t anyone seem to care that WordPress media handling is absolutely terrible? There is no clean way to tell if media is being used and where, or a simple way to substitute media, or reassign content from duplicate media. I have sites with multiple editors that will just reload media every post rather than look to see it is existing, ballooning their sites with junk. I have discussed this with a handful of colleagues with the same frustration.", "date_published": "2023-09-28T14:52:10-04:00", "authors": [ { "name": "RStarCA", "url": "http://www.intelretiree.com", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2703e7ad43f33055067c70951faaf193?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } ], "author": { "name": "RStarCA", "url": "http://www.intelretiree.com", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2703e7ad43f33055067c70951faaf193?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } }, { "id": "https://wptavern.com/wordpress-opens-2023-annual-survey#comment-444205", "url": "https://wptavern.com/wordpress-opens-2023-annual-survey#comment-444205", "content_html": "The survey was frustrating and synptomatic of what is wrong with WordPress atm.\n\nI\u2019ve worked at the bottom end of market research and the rate things on a scale questions are useless. They depend hugely on the framing of the question, previous questions or the interviewer (if there is one). And in many cases they miss the real problems entirely\n\nIn this case I\u2019d have liked to express disatisfaction with the current development priorities in core. It\u2019s mad the features being developed for Gutenberg that most don\u2019t want and the huge number of apis and bugs not being addressed\n\nThere was nowhere to express this opinion directly in the survey. And I know many others think similarly", "content_text": "The survey was frustrating and synptomatic of what is wrong with WordPress atm.\n\nI\u2019ve worked at the bottom end of market research and the rate things on a scale questions are useless. They depend hugely on the framing of the question, previous questions or the interviewer (if there is one). And in many cases they miss the real problems entirely\n\nIn this case I\u2019d have liked to express disatisfaction with the current development priorities in core. It\u2019s mad the features being developed for Gutenberg that most don\u2019t want and the huge number of apis and bugs not being addressed\n\nThere was nowhere to express this opinion directly in the survey. And I know many others think similarly", "date_published": "2023-09-28T06:00:51-04:00", "authors": [ { "name": "Peter Shaw", "url": "https://shawfactor.com", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/964140058eef83f4d7c2ceb0ac6d2581?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } ], "author": { "name": "Peter Shaw", "url": "https://shawfactor.com", "avatar": "https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/964140058eef83f4d7c2ceb0ac6d2581?s=512&d=retro&r=r" } } ] }